Social Media Analytics - IWOM Analytics or a lunch with Sam
As a nice follow up to my post on online
metrics in the world of user generate content, I had the chance to have
lunch with Sam Flemming of CIC / IWOM fame. While I have been somewhat
critical of CIC's reports, I do admire Sam as a visionary and Chinese
internet pioneer. CIC almost single handedly popularized Social Media marketing
and measurement (they call it Internet Word of Mouth or IWOM) in China, a market that
has not even started to measure online activity on company websites
effectively.
Most of our discussion focussed on how to integrate social media measurement, an
area where CIC has patent pending technology, with web analytics data, CIC's
positioning towards agencies, using social media effectively and the Chinese
Social Media environment in general. But one thing after the other (or Step by Step, as NKOTB said, yes I still can sing that song)
Chinese Social Media environment
- China
has a very vibrant social media scene that is driven by BBS culture
- Social
networks are growing out of successful BBS' and this history makes them
unique and uniquely different form popular western networks
- These
networks are populated mainly by young netizens, highschool and university
students
- The
discussions hosted on these networks cover a wide range of topics, many of
them relevant to major consumer brands
- Currently
there is no equivalent content rich network for business users (while
there are LinkedIn clones they do not feature discussions), although
companies like Alibaba and Xing are moving into this space
CIC's positioning towards agencies
- Sam
sees online agencies as partners for CIC and has positioned the company as
a compliment. They will measure social media conversation and consult
clients on a IWOM strategy, but it will not execute or manage IWOM
campaigns or seed posts.
- In
reality both agencies and clients don't see this distinction as clearly
and advertisers do position CIC and agencies as competitors. More
communication is needed to create a win-win situation. Our discussion was
good step into this direction.
Effective usage of social media
- Once
marketers understand that their brand is talked about online and how this
influences their brand equity, their natural response is asking "how can
I influence the ongoing discussion". While this is a valid question,
the easy answer (seed your own posts or hire a 3rd party vendor to
control the debate) raises serious ethical issues and will, in the long run,
destroy the trust and effectiveness of internet word of mouth. Especially
multinationals should be aware of the risk to their reputation that comes
along with faking posts.
- Sam
believes that this traditional media approach (just shout larger than
everyone else to make your message heard) is too simplistic and recommends
advertisers to listen first then be understood. (Wise words if you ask me) Understanding the
discussion going on online can inform advertising campaigns, since it
works like a giant focus groups (free of charge). In a next step advertisers are
also able to get almost real time feedback about users take aways from ongoing
marketing efforts, and can adjust their campaigns to better resonate with their audience.
- IWOM
tracking can also be an early warning system. Brands can learn about
problems with their products, communication or distribution by listening
to the unfiltered voice of the customer
- For
brands to participate in the discussion (note the difference to 'control
the discussion') Sam recommends a more sincere approach that centers
around 'real people' sharing their personal opinion in a casual language.
He notes the example of Dell, a company that effectively used the
'personal' blog of senior managers to enter into an open discussion with
users that previously voiced their frustration on sites like Dell
Hell. An interesting question will be how to translate such blog based effort
into the BBS culture in China (Any ideas? Let me know in the comment section). I do strongly agree with Sam that in the
long run only sincere and real participation will be rewarded. But China
being China, many a company will look for quick fixes that will in the end
harm their brand.
Integration of social media measurement
& web analytics data
- To
enable a better integration of IWOM data into regular web analytics
reports, along the lines of Dennis Mortensen's Online Business Media Quadrant Model, I highlighted some challenges of CIC's current offering to Sam
- Timeline:
My main gripe with CIC's "CIC data" report is timing. It usually covers a 1 month time frame, while ad campaigns usually
start sometime in the middle of the month and end 4,6,8 or 12 weeks later.
Aligning these timelines is almost impossible. In addition CIC's report
arrive with 2 weeks+ time delay after the month is over (most of this, I am
sure, due to the insight mining that takes place), that is too long for
kind of near time reporting I am looking for. Sam assured me that their "CIC Alert" product provides more flexibility in terms of timing (daily, weekly or monthly) and can be adjusted to follow the campaign duration. This type of reporting would integrate with Web Analytics efforts more effectively. To take that one step further we talked about access.
- Access:
Currently CIC delivers its reports in PDF formats by email. I would love
to have a web interface, much like my web analytics tools, or IResearch's
IUserTracker (link in Chinese). That way I could download the
quantitative info (number of posts, share of positive, negative, neutral)
whenever I need it (I can wait for the qualitative insights by PDF),
manage the keywords I would like to have tracked (product names, campaign
names, competitors etc.), organize them into campaigns, specify the
timeline I want to analyze and then export all this data to an Excel
spreadsheet and compare and correlate to my other online data. Doesn't that
sounds like a nice little IWOM vision

- While
I am not at liberty to share more details, I can say that Sam was
certainly listening intently and I am curious what they have in the works.
Stay tuned. I certainly will.





Florian,
Great summary of our discussion.
To your point that online agencies see us as competitors, it should be interesting to note that we have and continue to partner with leading online agencies, PR firms and advertising agencies. While you point so some confusion within the market, our track record and the number of phone calls we get from agencies asking for help every week suggests that this confusion may be limited.
Regarding delivery timing, we have a whole range of products which address both the need for timely information and the need for deep insight that reaches beyond basic "IWOM analytics." We package our services depending on client need.
Regarding access, all I can say is "stay tuned." :)
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Thanks Sam for the great discussion. I certainly learned a lot! I wish you all the best and trust even more agencies and clients will 'get' your position in future.
I am looking forward to seeing you rolling out new products and services and would love "testing" any upgrades you have in store.
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Thanks Florian, this is my first introduction to CIC. I penned The Social Web Analytics eBook 2008 a few months back, and I'll be sure to include CIC in the 2009 follow-up.
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Hi Philip, Check out their website or email me for Sam's contact. I am sure he would be interested in having a chat.
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